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Atlas FC misquote Nazi reichsminister Joseph Goebbels in support of VAR call

Using the words of a Nazi to prove your point is never a good look

Oliver Strand by Oliver Strand
July 24, 2023
in Broadcast News, Leagues Cup, New York City FC, NYCFC
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Atlas FC misquote Nazi reichsminister Joseph Goebbels in support of VAR call

It’s one thing for a soccer club to give a spirited defense on social media of a controversial offsides call that gave their team a win, but it’s another to use Joseph Goebbels to make your point. Most official Twitter accounts in fútbolandia don’t cite Nazis when talking about the one-goal victory they just earned on the road.

And yet that’s exactly what happened this morning when Atlas FC posted a tweet that addressed a Video Assisted Referee (VAR) decision last night that overturned a late goal by New York City FC by taking more than six minutes to rule that a player was offside in a Leagues Cup group stage game. NYCFC went on the lose that match 0-1.

The tweet cited a quote attributed to Goebbels, reichsminister of propaganda under Adolf Hitler and one of the architects of Nazism, to silence the fans and pundits who didn’t agree with a refereeing call that all but sealed the Atlas win.

UPDATE: The tweet linked below was deleted; you can find a screenshot at the end of this post.

https://twitter.com/AtlasFC/status/1683471561590820865

It should be pointed out that the phrase Atlas puts in quotes is seemingly something that Goebbels never said.

No matter. Is this a masterful if tasteless example of trolling? The tweet had 4.3 million views as of the publication of this article — as the saying goes, “there is no such thing as bad publicity.”

Here is the tweet in the original Spanish, and translated into English:

Esta toma es más clara que el agua, el fuera de lugar sucede en la primera jugada. Es lamentable como “influencers” y gente de medios “analistas” manipulen generando ideas de “supuestas ayudas”, pero recordando lo que dijo Goebbels, Ministro Nazi de información (mano derecha de Hitler) que lo aplican a la perfección: “miente, miente, miente que algo quedará, cuanto más grande sea una mentira más gente la creerá”.

This frame is crystal clear, the offside happens on the first play. It’s sad how “influencers” and media people “analysts” manipulate by generating ideas of “supposed help”, but remember what Goebbels, the Nazi Minister of Information (Hitler’s right-hand man) said as it applies perfectly: “lie, lie, lie so that it stays, because the bigger the lie the more people will believe it”.

But this tweet maybe strains that cliché. To address that, here are three brief points.

1. Quoting Goebbels is never a good look

First, it’s hard to understate the inappropriateness of this tweet. It’s more than a flippant reference to a quote attributed to the propagandist, it’s a carefully constructed line of reasoning — even if the quote itself is sketchy, and likely never spoken by Goebbels. This tweet means what it says.

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2. Wrong audience

Second, the NYCFC pictured in the tweet is a team that represents the city with the largest Jewish population in the world. The religious, ethnic, cultural, and national diversity of New York is one of the defining characteristics of a city that has welcomed – and continues to welcome – people who are forced to emigrate because the places of their birth are unsafe. Using a famous Nazi to diminish the supporters of NYCFC is more than insulting, it’s offensive.

3. That picture isn’t so truthy

Finally, the still image in the tweet isn’t germane to the final decision made by VAR. The question isn’t if Justin Haak, the NYCFC player in the lower right of the screen, is offside when the ball is first headed forward. The question is if the contested header makes contact with either an Atlas or NYCFC player after Haak moved comfortably onside.

was he on or off?#NYCFC pic.twitter.com/775f91b49j

— cree⭐ (@NYCreeFC) July 24, 2023

In other words, Atlas carefully picked an image that clearly supports the call that overturned the goal, and not the image that might put it in doubt.

Was Haak offsides? Possibly. But the tweet Atlas posted was pure propaganda.

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Here’s a screenshot of the original Atlas tweet, for posterity’s sake:

UPDATED JULY 24 AT 3:45 PM ET: Atlas issued the following apology and posted it to twitter

Comunicado Oficial. pic.twitter.com/awwLdRP4Te

— Atlas FC (@AtlasFC) July 24, 2023
Tags: 2023 Leagues CupAtlas FCJosef GoebbelsLeagues CupNaziNew York City FCNYCFC
Oliver Strand

Oliver Strand

Oliver is the executive editor and publisher of Hudson River Blue. A benchwarmer on the 1985 Culver City All-Stars, he grew up supporting the Los Angeles Lazers of the Major Indoor Soccer League.

Comments 5

  1. typoattack says:
    2 months ago

    So the context here is that the person they @ in the tweet (@werevertumorro) basically accused them of getting favorable calls from the referees (basically accusing them of bribing the referees without saying the word bribe) and said that they also did that all throughout their back to back title runs, and Atlas really really don’t like that.

    But.

    Pull up the replay on Apple and look for the replay from the camera behind the opposite goal.

    The header pretty clearly comes off the Atlas player who makes a deliberate play on the ball. Seriously, it’s going straight forward and then doinks off to the right.

    Pretty clear and conclusive evidence that the goal should have stood, showed mere seconds after the goal is scored, yet five minutes later the goal is reversed? Forgive me for being a little suspicious.

    Atlas are really talking about themselves when they quote Goebbels.

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  2. DJ Smith says:
    2 months ago

    Honestly, I think some of this stuff is bullshit. Haak scored a goal fair and square, ifgaf whether his nose was onside or not. Or if it hit an NYCFC or atlas’ player head. It said it would be clear and obvious and it is bullshit that something that close can be overturned. VAR should be like Football and baseball. If they’re isn’t enough evidence to prove it was offsides, that should not have counted.

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    • typoattack says:
      2 months ago

      “If they’re isn’t enough evidence to prove it was offsides, that should not have counted.”

      It is supposed to be like that. The fact that it took five whole minutes for the VAR to come to a decision means it was neither clear nor obvious to them.

      I actually think that there’s more than enough evidence to prove that the goal should have stood.

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  3. orangeology says:
    2 months ago

    five mins spent to find out a tiny excuse to “be able to” call it an offside. moment they decided to go VAR, the result was set. so be it. not the 1st time having seen such a circus from a Concacaf match.

    yet, it was not the main reason we lost. we got a bigger problem to solve. spending energy on the ghost of Goebbels or a media play gets us nowhere.

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    • typoattack says:
      2 months ago

      it was not the main reason we lost, but it is the main reason we didn’t walk away with one or two points.

      all of this talk about “if we just played better we wouldn’t be in this situation where a bad call royally screws us”, while absolutely true, comes off as making excuses for bad or corrupt refereeing.

      of course we have a bigger problem to solve, but the fact that we had a result stolen from us should not be handwaved.

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